"Hold on. Bide my Time. And Wait."
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falafel_musingsThought of the Day. I miss Breaking Bad.
BrBa Meme for My Flisters
Your Top Five Favourite BB Characters:
Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes:
Your Favourite BB Quote:
One Scene that blew your mind:
One Scene that makes you laugh:
One Scene that makes you cry:
One Character you think will survive the whole show:
One Character you fear is going to die in the end:
Your One Wish for the BB Ending:
Anything else: (pics, gifs, vids, fic, INDULGE ME!)
Five more months...*heavy sigh*
BrBa Meme for My Flisters
Your Top Five Favourite BB Characters:
Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes:
Your Favourite BB Quote:
One Scene that blew your mind:
One Scene that makes you laugh:
One Scene that makes you cry:
One Character you think will survive the whole show:
One Character you fear is going to die in the end:
Your One Wish for the BB Ending:
Anything else: (pics, gifs, vids, fic, INDULGE ME!)
Five more months...*heavy sigh*
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Date: 2013-02-21 11:54 pm (UTC)And I'm going to answer your questions but it's gonna take me some time to put my responses together into something coherent! I'm at uni at the moment and kinda half looking over my shoulder to make sure I'm not outing LJ-me!
I will do this tonight when I am home!
♥
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Date: 2013-02-22 05:33 pm (UTC)Oh BTW - I had a bit of a BB project planned for March Madness season. Only I'd call it 'March Badness' (see what I did there?) and it would be a big poll battle for fans to vote for their favourite BB episode. I was going to break the seasons down into 3/4 episode clusters, to give us a Top 16, then a Top 8, Top 4, Top 2 and finally the fans favourite episode. Would it be okay to host it on the BB_comm in March (you're a mod there, right?)
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Date: 2013-02-25 06:30 am (UTC)And if you need any help with it, let me know.
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Date: 2013-02-21 11:54 pm (UTC)Five more months...*heavy sigh* Shoot me now. Seriously...
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Date: 2013-02-22 12:54 am (UTC)Your Top Five Favourite BB Characters: Jesse, Mike, Saul, Gus, Skyler
Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes: Fly, Half Measures/Full Measure (cuz really, they count as one), and Down.
Your Favourite BB Quote: The above - "Hold on. Bide my Time. And wait." (because I can relate to that sentiment).
One Scene that blew your mind: Walt running over the 2 drug dealers.
One Scene that makes you laugh: Walt and Jesse trying to steal methylamine. And when Skyler tells the impromptu gambling story to Marie and Walt's reaction as she is telling it.
One Scene that makes you cry: When Walt turns Jesse down for go-carts, Jesse yelling at Walt in the hospital (the second time), and Walt and Jesse in the crack house.
One Character you think will survive the whole show: Saul (of course)
One Character you fear is going to die in the end: Jesse
Your One Wish for the BB Ending: For Jesse not to die.
Did you read the Anna Gunn interview where she said that one of the regulars has already been informed that he/she will not make it to the series finale? Yikes! I wonder who they'll kill off before the end?
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Date: 2013-02-22 06:43 pm (UTC)I totally count Half/Full Measure as one episode! Great choices. I've always thought 'Down' was really underrated.
When Walt turns Jesse down for go-carts
Ughhh!!! I want to cry over the mere mention of it.
And yes, I've heard the Anna Gunn spoiler about a regular dying before the finale. This terrifies me! I'm prepared for Walt dying but that won't be till the bitter end. Saul won't die. I don't think Marie or Junior will die either, unless they are accidental victims caught in the crossfire. I think Hank will survive till the finale because he has become the main protagonist for this last arc. So I'm really scared for Skyler and Jesse - my two faves! *sniff*
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Date: 2013-02-22 07:23 pm (UTC)A friend of mine crocheted Walt and Jesse dolls complete with removable hazmat suits and Heisenberg hat for me. Would love to show you a pic, but have no idea how to do that on here!
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Date: 2013-02-22 08:51 pm (UTC)Skyler is the one I'm most worried for. The theory about Walt taking traits from people he's killed is a strong theory. It's not just the bacon ritual, he's also using Skyler's maiden name. Then there's all the moments with Hank and Marie joking that they don't want to give Baby Holly back. I really think they will end up raising that kid.
OMG, are they anything like these dolls?
http://theworldofkitsch.com/cuddly-walt-jesse-dolls-from-breaking-bad
Because they are the cutest things ever!!
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Date: 2013-02-22 09:53 pm (UTC)YES!!! Exactly!
OMG, are they anything like these dolls?
Yes they are. Only she gave Jesse blue eyes and Walt brown. And since Walt doesn't really run around in his underwear when he's bald and in Heisenberg mode, she gave him pants and a goatee to make him more Heisenberg. They are now hanging out on my desk at work.
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Date: 2013-02-22 03:22 am (UTC)Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes:Full Measure, One Minute, All of S4 (cant choose)
Your Favourite BB Quote: "YEAH, SCIENCE!" Oldie, but goodie. (see below for more)
One Scene that blew your mind: Oh god, so many. JESSE AND THE GUN at the end of the S3 finale omg my heart, THE KID in the train job episode (and that whole train sequence), Skyler in the pool for the pretty, Hank in that One Minute sequence
One Scene that makes you laugh: Jesse!! The one I most remember is when Walt is asking him for periodic elements and he says: Wire? LMAO!! Still kills me.
One Scene that makes you cry: Oh god Jesse at the end of the S3 finale. Have I whined enough about how I had to watch that on an airplane and I couldn't break down and sob like I wanted? So now it destroys me even more to make up for it.
One Character you think will survive the whole show: Jesse pleeeeeease??? Realistically I think Skyler and Walt Jr will make it.
One Character you fear is going to die in the end: Jesse!!!
Your One Wish for the BB Ending: Jesse to live...and get a happy ending? Like I think he'll get jail, he probably wants a little jail because of the kids affected but with reduced prison sentence and witness protection? I can dream.
Anything else: (pics, gifs, vids, fic, INDULGE ME!): http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2012/07/jesse-pinkman-gifs/# YEAH SCIENCE BITCH! I'm assuming it was you that showed me the Seven Devils Breakibg Bad vid on Youtube but just in case not, that's awesome.
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Date: 2013-02-22 06:50 pm (UTC)OMG, I wouldn't watch BB on public transport. I need an isolated dark room where I can cry and freak out without embarrassing myself.
A reduced prison sentence and witness protection is my best case scenario for Jesse's ending too. I fear it won't be anything quite so merciful as that.
The Seven Devils vid is outstanding! And thanks for the link to all those Jesse graphics.
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Date: 2013-02-23 03:58 am (UTC)Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes: Fly, Say My Name, ...And the Bag's in the River
Your Favourite BB Quote: The entire Problem Dog speech.
One Scene that blew your mind: It's hard to answer this one because, unfortunately, I was mostly spoiled for all the 'blow your mind' scenes. But I will say Walt letting Jane die.
One Scene that makes you laugh: The kiddies pool scene.
One Scene that makes you cry: Jesse, at the end of Open House.
One Character you think will survive the whole show: Saul!
One Character you fear is going to die in the end: at the risk of being repetitive, Jesse.
Your One Wish for the BB Ending: We discussed this before but Jesse redeeming himself would be my number one wish.
Anything else: (pics, gifs, vids, fic, INDULGE ME!) Here, it's some Grilled collages I made but never shared anywhere (I was still testing and yeah, I love that shot of Walt in the trunk ;p)
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Date: 2013-02-24 01:35 pm (UTC)LOL, don't worry I'd still pick Walt as a favourite character too. I'd probably have all the same faves as you, though Saul might just beat Mike for my fifth spot.
I watched the first four seasons so fast. I avoided spoilers (because I was spending every spare moment watching!) but my brain was in a constant state of AHHHHH!
I think my biggest death fears are for Skyler. I could see Jesse dying too, but I think there are more worrying clues pointing to Skyler.
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Date: 2013-02-24 07:05 pm (UTC)I love Saul but Mike is actually my second favorite. Which is weird because he doesn't fall into my 'favorite characters' patterns. I'm re-watching season 5 (at the same time as season 2, I know) and Jonathan Banks is so amazing in the role. I want him to win the Emmy next summer.
I was worried for Skyler too but I since changed my mind... I don't think she's dead when we see the flashfoward. I think she used Saul's eraser guy to get the kids and herself away from Walt. Maybe with Jesse's help (redemption! redemption!). That Jesse/Skyler look will mean something, dammit!
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Date: 2013-02-25 09:34 pm (UTC)I love Jonathan Bank's too. I think he has a good chance at winning the Emmy this year. Aaron didn't get much of a spotlight in 5.1 and may not even get nominated. So unless one of the supporting Mad Men finally wins it could well go to Banks.
I think my one issue with Mike is just...he was Gus Fring's right-hand man. And I know Gus is a great character too but I always rooted against Gus, I felt Gus was more evil than Walt and Mike was Gus's loyal servant. And Mike never seemed to question Gus. I mean, Mike judged Walt to be a dangerous egomaniac and he judged Jesse to be a strung out liability and that's fine because both are true. But Mike never has a bad word to say about Gus Fring? That kinda bothered me. Maybe I never quite got over Mike being sent to kill Walt and Jesse in 'Full Measure'. Even though it's just Mike's job!
What is it you love about Mike?
I think I've imagined scenarios for all the non-Walt characters living or dying. Even Marie and Walt jr could go either way. I still hope they all survive somehow even though we know that's not happening.
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Date: 2013-02-26 01:32 am (UTC)I also wasn't feeling the Mike love in season 3. I believe my appreciation for Mike started when he gave his dinner to Jesse at that restaurant (in Cornered, I think?). I adore the twisted-abusive-loving-codependent relationship between Jesse and Walt but the less sadistic part of me also wants Jesse to have a real, honest friend. Someone who isn't using him to further is their own agenda. So even if Mike is really a remorseless killing machine, he was there (unwillingly of course) for Jesse in a time when he really need it (WHERE WERE YOU WALT?? WHERE?? DAMN YOU WALT!!). It might have started as a babysitting job, but when Mike gave his dinner to Jesse? He didn't have to do that. That was a nice gesture... Jesse didn't receive a lot of those little, nice gestures very often (I have a thing for people feeding my favorites. It's such a nice thing to do. Walt did that in season 2 (What some breakfast? I LOVE YOU WALT!!!) and Mike did it too (I LOVE YOU MIKE!!). Hey, you, character 1, you want my love? feed my favorite.)
Mike didn't tell everything to Jesse but when he did, it was the truth. 'I don't know why you're here but you're not the guy. I had a guy but now I don't. You're not the guy' After seasons of Jesse being lied too by Walt, Mike was a refreshing change. And that 'No kid, not you' line... I mean, wow. That's not something Walt would have done to protect Jesse. It it had been Walt in Mike's position, I don't think he would have had any problems asking Jesse to bring him his getaway bag, even if it meant a bit of danger to Jesse. Walt would have preferred to deal with someone he trusted and liked instead of trusting someone he completely despised with something as important as his getaway bag. But Mike agreed to deal with Walt instead of Jesse because he didn't want Jesse compromised. It was so unselfish and unfortunately it cost him his live.
Also, Mike was treating Jesse with respect. Even if he was calling him 'kid' these were two adults talking to each other and respecting each other. Mike never manipulated Jesse into doing something he didn't want to do. On the opposite side, I almost have this feeling that Walt considers Jesse to be a child and a less worthy human being than himself. I mentioned this before but sometimes Walt treats Jesse like he's some sort of object instead of a human being.
You see, my love for Mike is all about Jesse. :)
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Date: 2013-02-26 06:34 pm (UTC)I know what you mean about warming up to Mike after he starts taking Jesse under his wing. Mike's scenes with Kaylee have a similar effect. It just brings out his humanity which Jonathan Banks plays in a very charming way. And yeah, Mike giving Jesse his meatloaf did mean a lot after the heart-rending tragedy of Walt saying 'no' to Go Carts. That said, I struggle to say Mike counts as a true honest friend to Jesse.
that 'No kid, not you' line... I mean, wow. That's not something Walt would have done to protect Jesse.
True. Walt does gamble with Jesse's safety a lot (leaving him under a moving train and such). But on the flipside, there are some things that Walt has done to protect Jesse that Mike would not have done. Like, let's say Gus (or Gus's henchmen) had succeeded in killing Walt in 'Face Off'. Mike would have recovered in Mexico and then returned to work to find that Gus had kidnapped Jesse and was forcing him to cook at gunpoint. Do you think Mike would have stopped Gus from holding Jesse prisoner or from killing Jesse if he refused to cook? I don't think Mike would have disobeyed Gus. Mike seemed to like Victor too, but he didn't raise any objections to Victor having his throat cut. But Walt raised hell when Gus threatened Jesse, even though doing so almost got Walt killed too.
Mike never manipulated Jesse into doing something he didn't want to do
Mike did assist Gus in manipulating Jesse though. Mike let Jesse believe in the fake robbery. Mike and Gus also kept Jesse in the dark about Gus's plan to poison the Mexican cartel. That was a big risk of Jesse's safety and they manipulated Jesse into becoming an accessory to a massacre, something Jesse most likely wouldn't want to do.
So yeah, I guess Mike's loyalty to Gus is a problem for me (even though Mike is still almost in my top 5!). And while Walt is scarily possessive of Jesse, Mike wasn't willing to be Jesse's friend outside of the business which was a shame. Jesse doesn't need someone controlling his life (like Walt does) but I do think Jesse needs someone to guide him.
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Date: 2013-02-27 12:27 am (UTC)Probably not. He may have have said something in Jesse's favor but I don't think he would have risked his position in Gus' organization to get Jesse out of there. Or maybe. Jesse saved his life after all and Jesse was so darn adamant that the medical team attend to Mike. Maybe Mike would have switched his loyalty to Jesse instead of Gus as repayment for saving his life.
And Mike never seemed to question Gus.
Yeah, I have a problem with that too. Mike might have suspected that Gus was a monster but perhaps he was in denial or just didn't want to know in order to have a 'relatively' clean conscience (strong emphasis on the word 'relatively' here, I mean as relative as you could considering Mike is a cold blooded murderer). For example, I'm confident that if Gus had asked to kill Tomas, he wouldn't have done it. The only people we've seen Mike kill were criminals. And we know he was bothered by the guy who was beating his wife (if Mike was a sociopath, he wouldn't have cared at all about that woman) And Gus probably knew Mike's limits enough not to ask something like killing an innocent. So that's probably why Mike didn't ask questions about what Gus was doing ('Do you have any questions?' 'Yes but I know better not to ask')- I think he sincerely didn't want to know. Mike seems to be able to compartmentalize like that... for example, just before he died, when he told Walt they had a good thing going with Gus and if Walt just knew his place and be the obedient employee... he seemed to completely forget why Walt got in trouble with Gus in the first place... and it's the same reason why he didn't want Jesse to bring him his getaway bag! to protect Jesse! Damn it Mike!
I don't think Mike would have disobeyed Gus. Mike seemed to like Victor too, but he didn't raise any objections to Victor having his throat cut. But Walt raised hell when Gus threatened Jesse, even though doing so almost got Walt killed too.
Well, he raised his gun. But I know what you mean - Mike is the loyal, obedient, trusted employee. And I think he was bothered by Victor's death.. to me he seemed very disturbed at the bar when he was scratching Victor's blood from his jacket. And he was pretty angered when he told Jesse 'I had a guy, but now I don't!' But I also think Mike is very pragmatic. What is done is done, there's no point in raising hell and seeking revenge because his boss killed his partner. He enjoys his job and he wants to keep it. He can't bring Victor back to life so yeah, what's the point in raising hell risking everything?
Mike did assist Gus in manipulating Jesse though.
Yep, that's why I said that Mike didn't tell everything to Jesse. But he didn't lie either. When Jesse asked him if he was supposed to stay in Mexico, he told him the truth. And yes, it's a shame that Mike didn't want to be Jesse's friend outside of the business. :( But then again, neither does Walt. *is sad*.
ETA: One other thing about Mike, when Jesse asked Mike what Gus saw in him, Mike answered 'loyalty'. I don't think it's what Gus saw, it's what Mike is seeing in Jesse because he, himself is a very loyal person (to a fault of course, but the same can be said of Jesse. In fact the statement 'You're loyal to the wrong guy' could be applied to both Jesse and Mike).
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Date: 2013-02-27 11:59 pm (UTC)Ooooh. I like this observation. I like it a lot. :D
Maybe Mike would have switched his loyalty to Jesse instead of Gus as repayment for saving his life.
Hard to say. I mean, yeah, Jesse saving Mike's life was probably the only thing that stopped Mike from shooting Walt in 5x1. Mike might have vouched for Jesse but I don't think Mike would have outright rebelled against Gus and risked his position for Jesse. Gus was the one paying Kaylee's trust fund and I think Mike would choose Kaylee over Jesse. Mike would've felt bad about it. Mike still liked Walt at the end of S3 and yet he was willing to kill Walt on Gus's orders.
That said, I agree that Gus wouldn't have asked Mike to kill Tomas. It's also significant that Gus makes his monstrous "I will kill your infant daughter" speech in a scene where Mike is not around. Mike was very perceptive. I'm sure he wasn't blind to Gus's darker nature. But Mike did have a "I don't ask. I just do my job." attitude towards the business.
I can also see why Mike had respect for Gus rather than Walt. Gus spent 20 years carefully building up his network. He seemed like a safe bet for earning bags of money and not getting caught. Walt was a reckless usurper who just rushed in and stole everything. Mike doesn't enjoy the thrill of "gambling" like Walt does.
But yeah, Mike's rant about how Walt should have known his place struck me as ironic for the same reason. Walt standing up to Gus was the only thing that could've saved Jesse's life. And then the reason Mike ends up dying is he put protecting Jesse Pinkman ahead of his own safety. Funny how protective feelings towards Jesse was the one thing Mike and Walt had in common in the end.
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Date: 2013-02-25 06:20 am (UTC)In no particular order because I couldn't possibly!!
Skyler White
Walter White
Jesse Pinkman
Jane Margolis
Mike Ermahntraut (I'm not sure how to spell that!)
Your Top Three Favourite BB Episodes:
Fly
Thirty Eight Snub
Crawl Space
Your Favourite BB Quote:
"If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it." Saul Goodman
One Scene that blew your mind:
The camera angle that shows Walt hysterical in the crawl space beneath his house after discovering all the money was gone. What a culmination of ALL THE THINGS. Seriously. Bryan's acting, the camera work, the scripting. Genius.
One Scene that makes you laugh:
Jesse trying to get the dead body up the stairs but it falling back down.
One Scene that makes you cry:
I honestly don't think this show has made me cry? But a scene that I find heartbreaking is the one where Jesse and Walt have been searching for the ricin cigarette at Jesse's house and Jesse completely breaks down and Walt comforts him and Jesse is just SO. NAIVE. ABOUT. EVERYTHING. And Walt is so manipulative. And the whole thing is glorious and makes me want to weep for its perfection. IS THAT CLOSE ENOUGH?!
One Character you think will survive the whole show:
Saul! For sure!!
One Character you fear is going to die in the end:
Walter White
Your One Wish for the BB Ending:
I do NOT want a Walter White redemption arc in the final 8 episodes. DO NOT WANT. So, my wish is for the donconstruction to at least be maintained, if not progressed. IT IS WHAT I AM HERE FOR. I want Walt to be the bad guy right up to the very end and I want him to get recognition for it. IT IS WHAT HE CRAVES AFTER ALL!
Anything else:
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Date: 2013-02-25 07:08 pm (UTC)Then this recent statement from Cranston will be good news for you. :D Good news for me. I want everything to crash and burn too. And yeah, I'd be kinda shocked if Walt didn't die. They've been building towards his death since the Pilot.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s166/breaking-bad/news/a461319/bryan-cranston-on-breaking-bad-end-theres-no-redemption.html
Jesse is just SO. NAIVE. ABOUT. EVERYTHING.
I KNOW! I actually cried when Jesse gave Walt his birthday gift. Because seriously? You two are supposed to be drug lords together and Jesse's still being absurdly cute buying Mr White a present and just WHAT ARE YOU JESSE PINKMAN??!!
I love that Saul quote! Bob delivers it perfectly.
You know, with everyone feelings so sure that Saul will live I fear that Gilligan will seize the opportunity to shock us. I know there's been talk of a Saul spin off but that could still be a prequel show.
Mind you, Walt's meet with the gun seller at the Denny's makes me think Saul is still alive and Walt is still in contact with him at that time.
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Date: 2013-02-26 12:48 am (UTC)and just WHAT ARE YOU JESSE PINKMAN??!! I KNOW! I still can't believe the original plot was to write Jesse out at the end of season one! Can you imagine this show without their partnership? Without Jesse at all? NO! NO I BET YOU CAN NOT.
You know, with everyone feelings so sure that Saul will live I fear that Gilligan will seize the opportunity to shock us. My initial reaction to this is NO! HE WOULDN'T DARE!!! But if there's one think you can say about Vince, it's that he certainly would dare!! Haha! Man, I really hope this doesn't happen. Saul reminds me of the drunk guy at the party who falls down the stairs but doesn't spill a drop of his beer and doesn't end up with so much as a bruise. It's not good management that saves his ass necessarily, he's not violent or retaliatory, he's just Saul. And when even the shittiest of shit hits the fan, he'll still be there, with his beer glass full.
OR SOMETHING!
[that metaphor got confusing! LOL]
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Date: 2013-02-25 06:28 am (UTC)I'll add Holly to my guess list!